Spider-Man: No Way Home Writers Address Why Doctor Strange’s Spell Drew Venom to the MCU

Tom Hardy's Venom had a small but crucial cameo in Spider-Man: No Way Home, which the writers have recently explained.
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Spider-Man: No Way Home has become the biggest, iconic, historic and most important film of this year. The third installment of Marvel Studios adaptation of Spider-Man has also become the highest grossing film of its Spider franchise, receiving universal acclaim from both fans and critics alike. Some fans even called it the best Spider-Man and Marvel film of all time.

The main reason for the threequel’s huge success was the return of many characters in Spider-Man’s cinematic past, including the classic cinematic villains of Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin, Alfred Molina’s Doctor Octopus, Thomas Haden Church’s Sandman, Rhys Ifans’ Lizard, and Jaime Foxx’s Electro. Then, of course, there was Benedict Cumberbatch’s Doctor Strange playing an important role and reintroducing the concept of the Multiverse.


But them main reason of No Way Home’s huge success was the historic return of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield’s respective Spider-Men. Adding all of these elements, No Way Home was a celebration and tribute to Spider-Man’s 19 year history in Cinema. However, what some fans forget to realize and acknowledge was Tom Hardy’s Venom in a small but important cameo.

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During No Way Home‘s post-credits scene we see that Eddie Brock was also teleported in the Marvel Cinematic Universe after the events of Venom: Let There Be Carnage. During the post credit scene we see that Brock and Venom are inside local bar at Mexico asking a bartender of the recent and important events that happened in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Before Venom and Brock get to learn more about the MCU, they are teleported back to their respective universe. However, a piece of Venom’s symbiote is seen to have been left behind in the bar, potentially leading up to Holland’s Spider-Man donning the Black Symbiote Suit and a Marvel Cinematic Universe version of Venom.

Hardy’s appearance has somewhat confused fans, mainly because the spell that Doctor Strange used was for the people who knew Tom Holland’s Peter Parker to forget. That ultimately backfired and the spell became corrupted to include any figures who knew Parker’s identity in their respective universes, allowing them to enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

But in Hardy’s Venom films or universe, that wasn’t the case because, and there was no mention of Spider-Man or Peter Parker in him world. During a recent interview, the writers of No Way Home explained why Doctor Strange’s spell was able to let Venom into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

During their interview, No Way Home writers Chris Mckenna and Erik Sommers somewhat explained that the post credits in Venom: Let There Be Carnage has the answers in why Venom was able to enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe. During the post credit scene, while Brock is watching his telenovas, Venom tells Brock that he has “80 billion light years of hive knowledge across universes” and that would “explode” Eddie’s “tiny little brain.”

Before Venom could show Brock that’s when they both get teleported to the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Strange’s Spell. According to McKenna, he explains that somewhere in Venom’s Hive Mind has the Parker/Spider-Man Connection. Mckenna explained in the interview that:

The idea is that the symbiote has knowledge of other universes. Buried in his brain is some knowledge of that connection.

The writers did not give any more details on how Doctor Strange’s spell for the world to forget Peter Parker would influence future Spidey projects or films. However, Meckenna did explain that, “Obviously, some sort of magical redaction has occurred.” Mckenna then continued:

At the end of all this, we didn’t want a lot of people trying to do magical math in their head.” 

Ironically, Sommers then explained that they left the problems of Venom connection with Spidey get solved by their future selves. Sommers explained that:

“We decided, let’s try to do it in the most satisfying way and just focus on the emotion of it. And then if people have questions about some of those details that didn’t get answered here, we’ll answer them hopefully in another movie somewhere down the line.

With these comments it seemed that Sommers and McKenna have some work to do in trying to fully explain on how Venom’s hive connection with Spider-Man exist. The clues could be somewhat be hidden in Maguire’s Spider-Man 3 as that was the first Spidey film to introduce the Venom Symbiote. Topher Grace played the iconic Symbiote, but in that universe he was a major antagonist to Maguire’s Spider-Man and our first introduction to Spidey’s Black Suit. With a fourth film starring Holland’s Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe hopefully we get to see the Venom symbiote in action or possibly another variation of the Black Suited Spidey.


For the first time in the cinematic history of Spider-Man, our friendly neighborhood hero’s identity is revealed, bringing his superhero responsibilities into conflict with his normal life and putting those he cares about most at risk.

When he enlists Doctor Strange’s help to restore his secret, the spell tears a hole in their world, releasing the most powerful villains who’ve ever fought a Spider-Man in any universe. Now, Peter will have to overcome his greatest challenge yet, which will not only forever alter his own future but the future of the Multiverse.

Spider-Man: No Way Home is officially out now in theaters worldwide. The film stars Tom Holland, Zendaya, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jacob Batalon, Marisa Tomei, J.B. Smoove, Benedict Wong, Alfred Molina, and Jamie Foxx. The film is written by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers, along with cinematography by Mauro Flore and music by Michael Giacchino. No Way Home is produced by Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal and directed by Jon Watts.


Source: Variety


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